{"id":1392,"date":"2015-01-09T11:05:13","date_gmt":"2015-01-09T11:05:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/?p=1392"},"modified":"2015-01-11T00:39:44","modified_gmt":"2015-01-11T00:39:44","slug":"voynich-bathing-pages-f75r-84v","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/?p=1392","title":{"rendered":"Voynich ‘Bathing’ pages (f75r – 84v)"},"content":{"rendered":"

I am setting up this post to get discussion of the fascinating ‘Bathing’ or ‘Balneological’ pages of the Voynich manuscript (Quire 13, folios 75r<\/a> – 84v<\/a>).<\/p>\n

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I also want to raise awareness of an interpretation of these pages which I think is interesting and well-argued, namely the one by Lincoln Taiz and Saundra Lee Taiz which you can find on page 19 of the Chronica Horticulturae, Vol 51 , Number 2 ,\u00c2\u00a02011\u00c2\u00a0<\/a> Download aix openssh<\/a>.<\/p>\n

In that article they argue that in these pages “the author depicts a philosophical scene in which women represent vegetative souls located within the very marrow of the\u00c2\u00a0plant, driving the processes that make plants\u00c2\u00a0grow and reproduce”<\/em> (p22)<\/p>\n

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Elsewhere on this site Marco Ponzi has recently made another suggestion about these pages which I will also reproduce here for convenience, also for comment. Marco says:<\/p>\n

“This web page<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>by P Han presents (among other things) an analysis of f80r<\/a><\/span>, the bathing queens<\/a><\/span> \ub0b4 pc \uc9c0\ud0a4\ubbf8 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. At the center of the top illustration, we can see a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153nymph\u00e2\u20ac\u009d who wears a flower crown and seems to be coming out of a bathtub.<\/p>\n

P Han compares the central Bathing Queen (Nymph #6 from the left) to ancient images of Venus Anadyomene: the identification of the subject as a water goddess is a possibility, independently on linguistic considerations. The nymph is labeled EVA:opor reading Apar<\/i> (or ^abar^, following Derek\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s phonetics). I think this confirms the idea we discussed with Derren<\/a><\/span>that the label EVA:opoey on Voynich f86 \/ Rosettes O T map (an possibly EVA:opcholdg on f68v3) could be related with the Zoroastrian sacred water Aban\/Apas<\/a><\/span> star use map<\/a>. Nymph #6 likely is a personification of Aban.<\/p>\n

Nymph #4 is labeled EVA:okolo, reading Akasha<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>(the fifth element of Hinduism and Zoroastrianism, as Stephen discussed here<\/a><\/span>). She wears what appears to be a jewel tiara. Jewels are among the attributes of Buddhist personifications of Akasha (Akasagarbha<\/a><\/span>) Download The Divine Quiz Reboot 15<\/a>.<\/p>\n

So, at least some of the characters apparently are personifications of natural elements. The preponderance of women among these personifications seems to me noteworthy (for instance, the Buddhist personification of Akasha is male).<\/p>\n

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I also find the couple on the right interesting: Nymph #9, who wears a flower in her hair and has her hands tied behind her back, seems to he held captive by the Man \uce74\ub4dc\ub274\uc2a4 \ud15c\ud50c\ub9bf \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. They are facing towardsApar<\/i>. I tried to collect a set of random ideas for an embryonic explanation of this scene. I am sure that none of the following stories is exactly the one illustrated in this page.<\/p>\n

The scene seems to me somehow similar to some Mesopotamian seals (eg ME 103317<\/a><\/span>) \uae40\uac74\ubaa8 \uc0ac\ub791\ud574 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. From the British Museum description:
\n\u00e2\u20ac\u0153Cuneiform documents dating from the early second millennium BC describe how Ea, god of water and wisdom, held the Tablet of Destiny, a cuneiform tablet on which the fates were written and gave supreme power to its possessor. According to these accounts, Ea decides to bathe, and removes his crown, clothes and tablet. Anzu steals the tablet but the hero god Ningirsu defeats the monstrous bird and recovers the tablet \ud280\uc5b4\ub098\uc640\uc694 \ub3d9\ubb3c\uc758\uc232 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. This serpentinite seal appears to show Anzu (shown as a bird-man) brought as a prisoner before Ea.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/i><\/p>\n

I propose the following parallel:<\/p>\n

* Nymph #6 Apar<\/i> roughly corresponds to the water god Ea.
\n* The Man at the extreme right (EVA:okar akur<\/i> \u00e2\u20ac\u201c Ahura? \/ a god?) roughly corresponds to the hero god Ningirsu.
\n* Nymph #9 (EVA:okiin?) roughly corresponds to the bird-man Anzu Windows Vista<\/a>.<\/p>\n

A related Avestan myth<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>exists: the bird Kamak steals all the water from the world. He is defeated by the hero Karshasp. \u00e2\u20ac\u009dWhen Kamak appeared he spread his wings over the whole world, all the rain fell on his wings and back into the sea, drought struck the earth, men died, springs, rivers and wells dried up\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Download 2 with movie God<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n

But the beautiful and floral Nymph #9 is very different from these monstrous bird demons.<\/p>\n

Another possible parallel can be found in Botticelli\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Allegory of Spring<\/a><\/span>. The central character is Venus. On the right, the personification of the West wind Zephyr is kidnapping Chloris, a nymph closely related to Flora (the goddess of flowers), who stands nearby Download Coco Dubbing<\/a>.
\nA possible Avestan relative of Flora and Chloris is Anahita<\/a><\/span>, also associated with flowers (and so a possible match for Nymph #9).<\/p>\n

* Nymph #6 Apar<\/i> roughly corresponds to Venus \/ Spring.
\n* The Man at the extreme right roughly corresponds to Zephyr.
\n* Nymph #9 roughly corresponds to Chloris\/Flora.<\/p>\n

The rape of Persephone \/ Proserpina also comes to mind.
\nThe myth of [U]kur<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0<\/span>is a Mesopotamian variant: A dragon. He abducted Ereshkigal and became ruler of the underworld with her. He was killed by Enki and Ninurta but his body had held back the primaeval waters and now a flood threatened. The situation was saved when Ninurta built a wall to hold the waters back.<\/i> The Man labeled Akur<\/i> could correspond to Ukur.<\/p>\n

* Nymph #6 Apar<\/i> roughly corresponds to the water god Enki.
\n* The Man at the extreme right (Akur<\/i>) roughly corresponds to Ukur.
\n* Nymph #9 roughly corresponds to Ereshkigal.<\/p>\n

In conclusion, I would tentatively say that the illustration is related to a myth about fertility, rain and season change (at least, these seem to me the common traits of the parallels mentioned above).”<\/p>\n

Any views or comments welcome, on the Taiz and Taiz analysis or on Marco’s discussion, or anything else related to these pages.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I am setting up this post to get discussion of the fascinating ‘Bathing’ or ‘Balneological’ pages of the Voynich manuscript (Quire 13, folios 75r – 84v). I also want to raise awareness of an interpretation of these pages which I think is interesting and well-argued, namely the one by Lincoln Taiz and Saundra Lee Taiz … <\/p>\n

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