New version of the list\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 no new plants or astrological items to add, but \/y\/ is now included as a secondary interpretation for the letter ^r^ in a few cases, and the definitions of phonetic symbols are now collected near the top instead of given individually with their first applications in the tables, and a few old entries have some bits of new information added, like folios 27r & 28r. The slight shift in its overall appearance\/style is a side effect of a switch from one file format to another (HTML to word processor).<\/p>\n
The most significant difference now is the new section after the herbal & astrological tables but before the Notes: a few words that are not herbal or astrological names and, unlike them, should be in the authors\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 native language, with much lower odds of being imported from another language coolpack \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. And not only does each one of them have a plausible Romany connection, but some of them don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t work very well or even at all in any other language I know of except<\/i><\/b> Romany.<\/p>\n The one that stands out the most to me is \u00e2\u20ac\u0153ges\u00e2\u20ac\u009d meaning \u00e2\u20ac\u0153day\u00e2\u20ac\u009d. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s thoroughly out of the usual pattern for words meaning \u00e2\u20ac\u0153day\u00e2\u20ac\u009d in Indo-Iranian languages or any other Indo-European languages; so far off that, without knowing about it ahead of time, any grounds for thinking that the manuscript\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s word for \u00e2\u20ac\u0153day\u00e2\u20ac\u009d sounded like \u00e2\u20ac\u0153ges\u00e2\u20ac\u009d would normally be grounds for thinking the language must not be Indo-European Windows 10 Educational Download<\/a>. But there just happens to be one language in the family with that strange word, and it just happens to be the same word & language that were predicted from the manuscript.<\/p>\n [Here is the relevant new section]<\/em><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Original post (June 2015):<\/strong><\/p>\n Here (below) is an updated version of Derek Vogt’s provisional scheme for identifying elements of the Voynich manuscript, along with sound-sign correspondences \uc6d0\ud380\ub9e8 \ub9ac\uba54\uc774\ud06c \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. It is an update of his previous version which you can see here<\/a>. I thought it was worth dedicating a new page to it, to make discussion easier.<\/p>\n Here are some notes about it which Derek posted as comments elsewhere:<\/p>\n “Entirely new entries since the last version include plants 4v, 7r, 9r, 17v, 25v, and 43r, the blue text for 2v, and stars 16 and 21 g402<\/a>. One of those includes EVA-q, so that symbol has been added to the table of symbols and their sound values at the top. Plant 15r has been retracted.<\/em><\/p>\n Some \u00e2\u20ac\u0153old\u00e2\u20ac\u009d entries have had just a few new cognates added, or had old cognates that were only available as transliterations added now in their native alphabets, including plants 5v, 6r, 14v, 16v, 20r, and 39r, 2v\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s red text, and stars 7, 26, 37, 38, 45, and 53.<\/em><\/p>\n Old notes 9 and 13, on the sounds \/\u00c9\u00a3\/ and \/\u00ca\u2022\/, have been merged so that note 9 alone now address both sounds. A new note on the use of ^h^ after plosives has been added as #13, so later notes are not affected.”<\/em><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Derek has also offered some useful comments on the process as a whole:<\/p>\n “The purpose of working out the phonetic system is to find a relationship between Voynichese and a known language or family of languages which can be used as a model for translation (presuming it has any relatives that are known) \uc2a4\ud0c0\ub4c0\ubc38\ub9ac \ud55c\uae00 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n One way that could happen is by comparison of their phoneme inventories. Closely related languages usually use similar sets of phonemes, and very different sets of phonemes are used by more distantly related or unrelated languages. Fortunately, Voynichese\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s inventory seems to be rather unusual, so a good match would stand out from the crowd. Even if we never found a perfect match, at least this would be a way of narrowing down the list of candidates to the ones that come closest \ud37c\ud53c \uad6c\uc870\ub300 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. Wikipedia\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s articles on languages usually have lists\/tables of phonemes, like this one<\/a>, but not all, and some of the languages\/families in the same geographic region as Voynichese don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t even have Wikipedia articles. So information on the phoneme inventories of some candidate languages\/families would need to be found somewhere else.<\/em><\/p>\n Another way would be by matching some of the rest of the words in the text, the ones that form sentences in the author\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s language, not just things that are likely to come from other languages like the plant & constellation names \uc9f1\uad6c\ub294 \ubabb\ub9d0\ub824 \uadf9\uc7a5\ud310 \ucff5\ud478 \ub77c\uba74\ub300\ub780 \uc790\ub9c9 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. This requires some sign of what some of the other words should mean first. For example, one of the plants in my list produces an oil that induces vomiting, so another word on its page that isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t used on most other pages should be equivalent to \u00e2\u20ac\u0153vomit\u00e2\u20ac\u009d, and others that are somewhat more common would probably equate to \u00e2\u20ac\u0153induce\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and \u00e2\u20ac\u0153oil\/juice\/extract\u00e2\u20ac\u009d. The problem with this is that you can only try one language or language family at a time and there are a lot of candidates, many of which don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t appear in online translators Windows Subscribers<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n So again, the same issue applies: information on some of the candidate languages would need to be found somewhere else. We need a way to look up translations, or at least sound inventories, for lots of languages, even the obscure little ones for which such information is hard to get.”<\/em><\/p>\n <\/p>\n For the plants, the sources I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m listing below are for the botanical identifications. The plants\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 names in various languages are from the standard online translators I named above, plus Wikipedia in a few cases and a general web search in the case of sweet basil \uc9c1\uc9c4\uac8c\uc784 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. All plant identifications except four were based on only the drawings. The exceptions are that Darren Worley also used some cultural information for the olive identification and my three were influenced by my phonetic reading of their names.<\/p>\n![\"\"](\"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/wp-content\/comment-image\/164874.jpg\")
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