{"id":997,"date":"2014-05-18T19:57:10","date_gmt":"2014-05-18T17:57:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/?p=997"},"modified":"2014-08-09T10:08:17","modified_gmt":"2014-08-09T08:08:17","slug":"voynich-sign-m","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/?p=997","title":{"rendered":"Voynich sign &#8216;M&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The new website <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voynichese.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.voynichese.com<\/a> is a wonderful tool for\u00c2\u00a0seeing patterns of signs and words in Voynich text <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"http:\/\/placzabaw.spotkaniakultur.com\/%ec%98%a4%eb%a5%b4%eb%a7%89%ea%b8%b8-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">\uc624\ub974\ub9c9\uae38 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0Who made it? It seems anonymous, but someone should get credit for a useful piece of work&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>One thing it allows us to do is to see patterns \u00c2\u00a0which would otherwise be invisible <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"https:\/\/dragonflystainedglassstudio.com\/%ec%9c%88%eb%8f%84%ec%9a%b0-7-%eb%94%94%ec%8a%a4%ed%81%ac-%ec%9d%b4%eb%af%b8%ec%a7%80-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">windows 7 disk images<\/a>. For example:<\/p>\n<h5>The sign transcribed as &#8216;M&#8217;<\/h5>\n<p>Take the example of the letter transcribed in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voynich.nu\/writing.html\" target=\"_blank\">EVA<\/a> as &#8216;M&#8217; <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"http:\/\/www.softmatters.ensadlab.fr\/2020\/02\/05\/%ec%98%81%ec%96%b4-%ec%b1%85-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">English book<\/a>. \u00c2\u00a0If you look at this sign in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voynichese.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.voynichese.com<\/a> tool you get this view of its distribution across the whole manuscript:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.voynichese.com\/#\/exa:-m\/893\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.voynichese.com\/#\/exa:-m\/893<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This reveals\u00c2\u00a0some clear and interesting patterns <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"http:\/\/konradswirski.blog.tt.com.pl\/%ed%8f%ac%eb%b9%84%eb%93%a0-%ea%b7%b8%eb%9d%bc%ec%9a%b4%eb%93%9c-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">\ud3ec\ube44\ub4e0 \uadf8\ub77c\uc6b4\ub4dc \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. The first is that this sign does seem to be used as a &#8216;terminator&#8217;, as I suggested <a title=\"Feb 2014 paper\" href=\"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/?page_id=38\" target=\"_blank\">in my Feb 2014 paper<\/a> <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"http:\/\/umamirecords.sg\/%ed%8e%80%eb%93%9c%ed%86%a0%ed%81%b0-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">\ud380\ub4dc\ud1a0\ud070 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc<\/a>. Look at its use in the final &#8216;recipe&#8217; pages of the manuscript, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voynichese.com\/#\/f113v\/exa:-m\/193\" target=\"_blank\">such as here<\/a> <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"https:\/\/ets2.gr\/2020\/02\/%ec%98%81%eb%ac%b8-%ed%95%84%ea%b8%b0%ec%b2%b4-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">Download cursive in English<\/a>. As Cosmo said on these pages, and as I have discussed <a title=\"Voynich: the punctuation problem\" href=\"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/?p=940\" target=\"_blank\">in another post<\/a>, the visual evidence does indeed suggest that this sign &#8216;M&#8217; is used as a terminal variant of \u00c2\u00a0&#8216;R&#8217; <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"https:\/\/mamasusanne.com\/gta4-%eb%ac%b4%eb%a3%8c-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">Gta4 free download<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h5>Scribal variation?<\/h5>\n<p>However, another interesting pattern also emerges with this sign. If we take just the plant pages, on some of them this sign is used a LOT <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"http:\/\/www.anwaltshaus-bad-nauheim.de\/blog\/2020\/02\/08\/%eb%af%b8%ec%8a%a4-%eb%a6%ac%ed%8b%80-%ec%84%a0%ec%83%a4%ec%9d%b8-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">Miss Little Sunshine<\/a>. For example on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voynichese.com\/#\/f3r\/exa:-m\/0\" target=\"_blank\">f3r <\/a>and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voynichese.com\/#\/f3v\/exa:-m\/0\" target=\"_blank\">f3v<\/a> it is all over the page <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"http:\/\/endirecto.mx\/2020\/02\/08\/%ec%b0%bd%ec%84%b8%ea%b8%b0%ec%a0%84-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">Pre-Genesis download<\/a>. Yet on other plant pages it is not used at all.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, it seems that\u00c2\u00a0when it is used a lot on one page, then it is also used extensively\u00c2\u00a0on\u00c2\u00a0some\u00c2\u00a0<em>adjacent pages too <a class=\"eaffe\" href=\"http:\/\/growinglegacy.com\/%ec%a0%a0%ed%82%a8%ec%8a%a4-%ed%94%8c%eb%9f%ac%ea%b7%b8%ec%9d%b8-%eb%8b%a4%ec%9a%b4%eb%a1%9c%eb%93%9c\/\">Jenkins plugin<\/a>.<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0For example, from f20r &#8211; f21v we have four pages with none of them at all (although those pages have relatively little text). \u00c2\u00a0Then from f22r &#8211; f24v, we see lots and lots of them.<\/p>\n<p>This suggests an element of possible scribal variation, typical of mediaeval manuscripts. If we assume that scribes worked on sequences of pages, then we would expect this kind of pattern.<\/p>\n<p>What I am suggesting is that this\u00c2\u00a0sign\u00c2\u00a0is used in general as an &#8216;end-marker&#8217; of some sort, as can be seen from the last pages of the manuscript with the &#8216;recipe pages&#8217;. But it also appears that some scribes, e.g. the scribe\u00c2\u00a0of f3r and f3v, chose to use it even more frequently to break up the text , just as some modern writers use more commas than others.<\/p>\n<h5>How many scribes?<\/h5>\n<p>In much Voynich discussion\u00c2\u00a0it is\u00c2\u00a0suggested that there are two scribes and two &#8216;languages, A and B. In my view these are not two languages at all, but simply dialect and scribal differences. However, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.voynich.nu\/extra\/curr_main.html\" target=\"_blank\">we note that Currier<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0himself suggested many scribal <em>hands<\/em>:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So now we have a total of something like five or six to seven or eight different identifiable hands in the manuscript. This gives us a total of two \u00e2\u20ac\u02dc\u00e2\u20ac\u02dclanguages\u00e2\u20ac\u2122\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 and <strong>six to eight<\/strong> scribes (copyists, encipherers, call them what you will)&#8221; <em>(http:\/\/www.voynich.nu\/extra\/curr_main.html, <\/em>my emphasis<em>)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In my view, we badly need more research into the scribal aspects\u00c2\u00a0of the manuscript, and into variation\u00c2\u00a0of the kind I have highlighted. The Voynichese website will undoubtedly be of help in elucidating these areas and pointing to \u00c2\u00a0possible further avenues for research. Has anyone noticed other interesting patterns?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The new website www.voynichese.com is a wonderful tool for\u00c2\u00a0seeing patterns of signs and words in Voynich text \uc624\ub974\ub9c9\uae38 \ub2e4\uc6b4\ub85c\ub4dc. \u00c2\u00a0Who made it? It seems anonymous, but someone should get credit for a useful piece of work&#8230;. One thing it allows us to do is to see patterns \u00c2\u00a0which would otherwise be invisible windows 7 disk &hellip; <\/p>\n<p><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/?p=997\">Read more &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-997","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-voynich","category-voynich_script_and_language"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/997","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=997"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/997\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1121,"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/997\/revisions\/1121"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=997"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=997"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stephenbax.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=997"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}